MINUTES OF MEETING TURTLE RUN
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT

A regular meeting of the Board of Supervisors of the Turtle Run Community Development District was held on Monday, September 12, 2022, at 6:00 p.m. at Governmental Management Services, 5385 N. Nob Hill Rd., Sunrise, Florida 33351.
Present and constituting a quorum:
Skip Carney	Chairman
Lance Morgan	Vice Chairman
Chris Kapish	Assistant Secretary
Zaida Karnegis	Assistant Secretary (via telecommunication)
Michael Hohl	Assistant Secretary Also present were:

Rich Hans Scott Cochran Patrick Szozda Patrick Burgess
Jonathan Geiger

Governmental Management Services District Counsel
GMS GMS
District Engineer

FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS	Roll Call
Mr. Carney called the meeting to order, and Mr. Hans called the roll.

SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS
Mr. Carney led a moment of silence.

Moment of Silence

THIRD ORDER OF BUSINESS	Pledge of Allegiance
Mr. Carney led the Pledge of Allegiance.

FOURTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Good News
Mr. Carney: Chris, do you have any good news? Mr. Kapish: No.
Mr. Carney: Lance?

Mr. Morgan: It rained yesterday but nothing else. Mr. Carney: That is always a good thing. Mike? Mr. Hohl: No.
Mr. Carney: I don't have anything.

FIFTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Public Comment
Mr. Carney: Public comment, there is no public here

SIXTH ORDER OF BUSINESS

Approval of the Minutes of the August 8, 2022 Meeting

Mr. Carney: We need a motion to approve the August 8, 2022 minutes, please.

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Mr. Hohl with all in favor, the Minutes of the August 8, 2022 Meeting were approved.

SEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Update on Progress Report on 9
Monument Signs
Mr. Carney: Mike, do you want to take this?
Mr. Hohl: We actually have a little more progress. Signarama has two permits in hand and the other seven have gone through their reviews, so they are expecting the permits to be issued in the coming week. Once we know that we have the permits then we will bring back to the Board whatever the new price is going to be because obviously with the changes that were made, different materials, different manufacturing so it is going to cause an increase in price. I don't know what that is yet, but we will bring that back to the Board once we know this is what the City is approving. The design itself hasn't changed since we last approved it. It is just a matter of knowing for sure that this is what the City has approved and here is the new price based on the changes that the City required. That is good news.

Mr. Carney: I have a question. When should we start removing the hardware and old signs because we have Joe from COi calling the other day about the nine monument signs as far as decorations are concerned and what do we want to do there?
Mr. Hohl: I think it is going to be several months before the signs are manufactured and installed. That doesn't mean that we can't get the bricks cleaned and resealed and the copper caps done. Maybe we can do that right away and then wait on the actual sign until later down the road when they are ready and that will allow us to do the Christmas lights. Another option would be to just modify the Christmas lights, so it doesn't encompass the sign at all.
Mr. Morgan: Most of those walls aren't going to receive holiday lights as far as I know, right?
Mr. Carney: It was in the plan to do it yes.
Mr. Morgan: Each monument sign? I thought we stopped doing all the monument signs. The State Road 7 is a different story, but I think the other seven monument signs or the ones on Wiles, and we haven't done those in a while.
Mr. Carney: It is in the budget. We didn't do it last year. They are in the budget to do them completely. Who knew where we were going to be with this process?
Mr. Kapish: If we didn't do them last year, why would we do them this year because nothing has changed? In fact, the signs look worse. They are moldy and in fact, they are falling apart.
Mr. Carney: Well the price is there but that doesn't mean we can just exclude that from the deal.
Mr. Hohl: I have the proposal in front of me. It looks like they were putting some lights on the monument wall we can just avoid the sign itself. We have already approved that. Then we would have some Christmas lights.
Mr. Morgan: Everything is a la carte from my understanding. We can eliminate at least the four of them that are on Wiles Road by the ballpark and by Creekside. We can just eliminate those four. The sign itself at two of the locations is falling apart. Also on Terrapin across from Wendy's, that sign fell apart this past weekend or last weekend. I went up there and unbolted it and removed the bottom half of the sign. The sign actually

separated and fell apart. I disconnected it and let it fall down. I think Patrick might have picked it up this week.
Mr. Szozda: We took care of it.
Mr. Morgan: I think there is one at Creekside that is literally falling apart too. We can just eliminate them.
Mr. Carney: Eliminate Wiles Road completely and do the 441 and the Turtle Run
Shoppe sign.
Mr. Hohl: I would say just the Turtle Run Shoppe sign at Turtle Creek Drive, not the one on Terrapin.
Mr. Carney: You could do both, why not? Well, Joe is kind of standing by waiting
for our decision.
Mr. Morgan: We do need to move ahead with preparing the monument features, but I have a couple of questions regarding that. At the last meeting, Mike said that the initial sign bid was around $75,000. Then the signs went up to $125,000 for nine signs.
Mr. Carney: What was that price Mike do you know? Mr. Hohl: I don't have that present.
Mr. Morgan: That is what I have written down. From $75,000 to $125,000 I know the City has totally changed the signage, the lettering. Now Mike just said we don't know what the final cost on the sign is going to be. Two weeks ago I asked Susan, I spoke with her to come to a meeting, and she was unable to make it. I asked her to be here tonight to talk about why there is a 66% increase in the signs from the original bid of $75,000 to
$125,000 and we don't know if that is going to be the final cost of the signs. It could be less, or it could be more, I don't know. Mike just brought up the fact that it may be more, I don't know based on the requirements of the City. What I would like to find out is 66% more per copy and maybe more depending on what the final price is going to be, why is that? I want to see, is it different wiring? I know they are drop-in letters compared to backlit.
Mr. Carney: It is a different process.
Mr. Morgan: I understand that I am like she did a good job when she first came out what was it November? She came out and explained it and she did a PowerPoint presentation for us. I thought she did a very good job. Now we are up to a price of

$125,000 and maybe more. I don't know if that counts the $5,000 that we already appropriated for her to remove the hardware and the signs. That would be about $130,000 without any other price increases.
Mr. Kapish: Why isn't Susan here tonight? Mr. Szozda: She is in Colorado on vacation.
Mr. Morgan: I asked her to be here tonight to explain and it is very explainable.
The product, a more complicated sign to build and that type of thing.
Mr. Kapish: You always have the vendor come to you. That is the way it has usually been done.
Mr. Hohl: When she gets back in town I will ask her for the revised quote to show
what caused the difference. Here is what the first one cost and here is what the materials were. Here is what the second one cost and materials and that way we can compare them. Obviously, what she said before it is a higher-level sign than what we had originally. It is actually a nicer sign.
Mr. Morgan: Totally different sign I get that. It might be a much higher level of lighting, backlit lights which might require different wiring, I don't know. If it does, let's say
$150,000 just for sake of argument that would be a 100% increase from the original signs that we originally voted on. We are going to have to have another vote obviously. Not that we want to do this but that is going to get to the point of I voted for the signs in the very beginning but $150,000 for nine signs is something the Board has to consider should be put out for bid or is she the only single vendor of preference, I don't know. I voted for the signs if she could do it in a timely fashion.
Mr. Carney: I think another thing you have to consider is the engineering, that her engineering had dealt with everything. We haven't had KCI involved at all.
Mr. Morgan: I know that.
Mr. Carney: There is some engineering expense there going back and forth to the City. I am sure that doesn't come cheap.
Mr. Morgan: Ok but I as a Board member want her here to explain it all and she did a very professional job last time. I thought she did a good job back in November. I talked to Patrick today and said is she coming to the meeting because I want to find out

why the signs are up 66% at this point and that is not the final number, maybe it is I don't know. If it is going to go up anymore I am going to need answers to my questions.
Mr. Carney: I think until she gets the permits back approved she is not going to know the exact scope the City has given her. That could have something to do with it, I don't know.
Mr. Hohl: I would feel more comfortable waiting until we have the final approval before we say this is it because if we say this is it and then the City changes their mind on something, and it jacks the price up again then we have to bring it back a second time. We are getting close. It sounds like we might have permits this week so hopefully, by next meeting we should have all that information available to us.
Mr. Morgan: I don't recall but did we appropriate money for the brick people to come and spray the bricks?
Mr. Hohl: Yes.
Mr. Morgan: We need to probably move forward with that. I mean we could have it whenever the beginning of next month and start working on the landscaping and ripping it out. We have to start prepping these walls.
Mr. Carney: I agree.
Mr. Morgan: Even if the signs are two months away there is nothing wrong with getting the bricks and other things ready.
Mr. Hohl: Originally we thought that it was going to be a quicker process and they would take the signs down and once that happened then we could come in and do the brick walls because remember there are walls where there are letters on the walls that they would have to repair that.
Mr. Morgan: We decided to slow down removing the wood signs but now a couple of them are falling apart. That was a year ago we decided not to or almost a year ago so now it might be time to have the people go in there and remove all that stuff.
Mr. Carney: Pat I have the names and numbers of the vendors; you will be dealing with them, not me ok? I will give you that information ok?
Mr. Szozda: Yes, sir. Mr. Carney: Ok.

EIGHTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Hidden Lake at Turtle Run
Holiday Lighting Proposal 2022 1Yr
Mr. Carney: Hidden Lake holiday lights, Lance, do you want to speak on that one, please?
Mr. Morgan: We spoke about that last meeting. I think everybody got the brochure, maybe you had a chance to look it over. If we are going to contact Joe regarding not lighting the Wiles Road four monument signs that would save us some money there, but does anybody have any suggestions as far as Hidden Lake?
Mr. Hohl: I just have a question. I know we do the Estates monument sign with lights; do we do any of the other entrances to the other sub developments that are on Turtle Run Boulevard or Turtle Creek Drive or Creekside?
Mr. Morgan: Not to my knowledge.
Mr. Carney: Well we don't do Newport because we don't have the landscape easement there. That is the one reason that we cannot do Newport by Mike's advice. Harbor Island from what I understand, the last couple of years they didn't do lights at all. I don't think they did anything last year, Lance did they?
Mr. Morgan: I don't recall.
Mr. Carney: I don't think so. I don't think there was anything there. The only one left would be Hidden Lake.
Mr. Hohl: I am in full agreement to put lights at the entrance to Hidden Lake but since these are all entrances to the sub developments of Turtle Run if we have an easement to do it I don't know that it wouldn't be a bad idea to light all of them up.
Mr. Carney: I agree it would be consistent throughout the District.
Mr. Morgan: I can contact Steve who is the HOA guy over at Harbor Island and see if he wants to participate with us doing that for him. We do have a landscape easement agreement with him already in place and see if they are interested. I don't know if it is a choice that they do not have holiday lights.
Mr. Carney: I think that would be a good idea.
Mr. Morgan: I will contact Steve and find out if they would like to participate. We would do some type of theme similar to Hidden Lake. They basically have the same type

of landscaping. We just recently did their landscaping. They took out the Dahoon hollies, but they do have a couple of Medjools that we put for them years ago. Maybe we could do their Clubhouse and maybe the guard shack and the Medjools for them at least.
Mr. Carney: And the colors for the Medjools would be consistent throughout the community. It will look nice.
Mr. Morgan: So, you want a motion, Mr. Chairman, I mean if we were to do the full
package for them it looks like.
Mr. Carney: We need a motion to approve Hidden Lake right? We are going to do
that.
Mr. Morgan: I am asking if you want to do that because the Hidden Lake total is
$5,000.
Mr. Carney: I thought it was $2,500. Mr. Hohl: There are three areas.
Mr. Morgan: It is $2,500 for entrance and exit; the center median is $1,800 and then it looks like the back center median.
Mr. Hohl: Lance is that all depicted in this picture, the three areas?
Mr. Morgan: Yes. If you want to wait till the next meeting that is ok. I don't think there is any hurry.
Mr. Kapish: They are going to have to know about tree trimming because if you
are going to be decorating trees they need to be trimmed.
Mr. Morgan: Their trees are trimmed.
Mr. Kapish: The other thing is CDI is going to have to get some advance notice because it is already mid-September. In fact aren't we supposed to have started our tree trimming?
Mr. Carney: Tree trimming already started right?
Mr. Szozda: Not officially. He was waiting for the meeting tonight to be finalized. Mr. Carney: Ok.
Mr. Morgan: How do you read that Mike? You have area 1.
Mr. Hohl: This is the front page, area 1 and then area 2 is here and area 3 is back
here.
Mr. Morgan: Area 2 is?

Mr. Hohl: The center median which includes the guardhouse. All area 3 is the Sylvester palm that is behind the guardhouse. I don't know that we necessarily have to do that one.
Mr. Morgan: That is $1,000 for that one tree? Mr. Hohl: Yes.
Mr. Kapish: The total is $5,336.
Mr. Hohl: That Sylvester is kind of all by itself back there. If we stop the lighting here than it looks more consistent.
Mr. Morgan: Ok.
Mr. Carney: Decorating the guardhouse itself, does that make sense?
Mr. Morgan: I just told him to give me an a la carte. I spoke to their President over there; Julia is the new HOA President. Fred is the Vice Chair. She just wanted to know if we could help out in some way. I told her we could probably help out in the amount of
$2,500 or maybe $3,000. It depends on what the Board feels comfortable spending.
Mr. Carney: Do you want to do a motion not to exceed $3,000? Mr. Hohl: It looks like the guard shack is $600.
Mr. Kapish: The guard shack and the center median is probably the main piece that you would want to have decorated anyway.
Mr. Hohl: I would say areas 1 and 2 but not 3. Mr. Carney: What does that total up to?
Mr. Hohl: Like $4,400.
Mr. Morgan: I would say I would make a motion that we agree to do their entrance not to exceed $4,500 and we will see what Joe can work out for us.

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Mr. Hohl with all in favor, a not to exceed amount of $4,500 for Hidden Lake
 oliday lighting w s approved.

NINTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Staff Reports
A.	Attorney
Mr. Carney: Staff reports, attorney, please.

Mr. Cochran: Mike as you know is not here tonight. I am here for him, but he did not have anything specific to report nor do I, so I am happy to entertain any questions you have.
Mr. Kapish: What are those packages?
Mr. Cochran: Those are for Rich for other Districts.

B.	Engineer
1)	Updates on
a.	Turtle Run Signpost Replacements
b.	Cypress Pointe Flagpole Improvements
Mr. Geiger: Good evening. The Turtle Run signpost replacements actually are completed for the most part now. Horsepower notified me this morning after me making several attempts to get a firm date out of them for when they are going to be done so the nine frames that had to be installed were installed. The only frame and sign that is currently missing is the school sign on Tortoise Way that got vandalized or stolen. It just kind of disappeared. I am going to email them tomorrow. They have to put that one on still. I performed a final walk-through of all the remaining corridors. Everything is good to go. They filled in some of the post holes that I pointed out last time. At this point, they just need to get their final inspection called. There are the two No U-Turn signs that have to go on Turtle Run Boulevard East over by Hidden Lake. They are in pretty good shape. They passed two of their zoning inspections already. They haven't filed for the other ones yet. They are underway doing that. I am hoping that within the next month they can get all their inspections done. I think the City needs an updated license for them though. I was checking the permits online; it did say they can't call in for their engineering inspection until the City receives their updated license. When I email them tomorrow I will gently remind them they need to get that done as well. They have not submitted for any more payments since the last one that we approved for them. I was told the No U-Turn signs should be by the end of this week. Hopefully, things are getting underway and done with this. It has been I think a year past on this project.
Mr. Kapish: Did you see the vandalism on the signs? Some of them have what
looks like paintball stuff shot at them, stickers too. I think the stickers probably should be removed. The sun is going to melt them on it.

Mr. Geiger: I will mention it to them when I email them to make sure all the signs are cleaned and free of vandalism.
Mr. Carney: Do you guys want to drive around and take a look and see if there are any signs that are defaced?
Mr. Szozda: I know stickers are on the ones by the park there for sure. I haven't seen the paintball, but I will look for it.
Mr. Geiger: Nothing caught my eye today when I was out there. I was mostly looking at the post holes and stuff like that. They are covered in cobwebs I can tell you that a lot of these signposts right now.
Mr. Carney: Pat can you tell Santos about that, please? Mr. Szozda: Yes.
Mr. Geiger: Unless anybody has any other questions on the signposts I am going to move on to the flagpole project. I spoke with Patrick today and we are still waiting on the easements which was the last piece of the puzzle before we can get to submit for a building permit. I know Mike mentioned last meeting that he can't draw up an agreement until we have an easement signed. I guess the only update I have on that is I had to go back and forth with the City one more time about DRC. I finally got a firm answer from them that it is not going to require DRC. There was somebody at the City who was telling me otherwise. The only other thing I have to report on this is the electrical engineer submitted an invoice for the design work which the District contracted to do. We released the payment for that. All that he has left is the construction phase service that was part of the agreement. Adams Electric was unable to provide me with an updated proposal that included the light fixture. They are having a hard time getting back numbers from the distributor. They did tell me though that their actual cost will not change so the original proposal that we got from them for $4,530 for their work is going to remain the same. We are just waiting on the lights. He did get a quote from the manufacturer for $4,000 for the two lights. It will be $2,000 a light. Unfortunately, they are unable to buy them from the manufacturer. They have to go through a distributor, and they normally mark things up, so he is trying his hardest I guess to get a firm price on that to include in the new proposal or he said he is going to start looking at alternatives for us to approve. He thinks the
$2,000 a light is a pretty high price. When we did the other flagpoles at Turtle Creek and

Sample they were about $2,000 with the installation. Things have gone up a little bit, but he is concerned with the cost of them. If he comes back with something I just have to let them know they have to basically match what we have out there. It could be a different brand, but we want a similar look and everything. I guess next meeting hopefully we will have the easement signed, and we can select a contractor to undertake the job.
Mr. Carney: Anything else?
Mr. Geiger: No, is all I have tonight.
C.	Field Manager
Mr. Szozda: We met with People's Choice, and we did a drive-through. Basically going over additions. It was the exact same price. We added a bunch of fencing. Apparently, the Grove was never done. Dennis I guess refused to do them. We added the Grove and the FPL powerlines also. That is going to get cleaned up.
Mr. Kapish: The preserve fencing on Turtle Run Boulevard is a mess.
Mr. Szozda: The worst side is the Grove. We are going to make sure that all gets cleaned up also.
Mr. Morgan: They did clean that last year. The stuff just grew back so fast. Mr. Kapish: The park has staining.
Mr. Szozda: He mentioned that in there.
Mr. Kapish: That has never been corrected and has never been cleaned off. It has been a long time now. I don't know if it is even going to come off.
Mr. Szozda: There is no guarantee, but we addressed that with them. He will make every effort to clean all that off.
Mr. Carney: You have to remember when they were pressure washing Dennis was not 100%. They weren't being followed up on the way they had been in previous years so they may have missed a lot of fences. If we stay with them and on them then they do well.
Mr. Morgan: What is their bid for the job this year?
Mr. Szozda: $36,458, I believe is the exact number on there. Mr. Carney: It is in the budget correct?
Mr. Hohl: And that is the latest quote?

Mr. Szozda: Yes he added a bunch of the fencing and he determined that it was going to be the same price.
Mr. Carney: There is a little bit more than that in the budget.
Mr. Morgan: Pat, the same with the trees when we have the tree trims, you have to find out what section they are cleaning every day, so we have a road map of what to inspect to make sure everything is done. What I have noticed is some of the brick pavers on the Passive Park walking out to the Passive Park are getting mildewy and that type of thing. Can you take a look at that and see if we need to have that cleaned? It gets underway occasionally when it rains so hard. Just take a look at that.
Mr. Szozda: We took him out there to look at that fencing also so he says he can get his truck out there and it shouldn't be a problem.
Mr. Morgan: We want to make sure we revisit this because we complain because they were causing a lot of damage to our grass. Creekside is destroyed again today. I don't know if you noticed that. We need to take a note to tell them to stay off, the roads are designed for his vehicles to sit there. They don't have to be in the grass. They caused a lot of damage last year if everybody remembers. We don't want that to happen again this year. We are gearing up for the holiday season and come October we want everything to be kind of perfect. Creekside who knows what they are doing out there.
Mr. Szozda: Yes, sir.
Mr. Morgan: Last year I called Steve from People's Choice and made a complaint personally that the guys were destroying a lot of grass. Ok, thank you.
Mr. Carney: What else do you have Pat?
Mr. Szozda: The other thing is I have a proposal from BrightView for $2,261.75. They are filling the bare areas by the school tennis courts there, installing arboricola in between the palmettos.
Mr. Morgan: About a week or so ago maybe two weeks ago we did a drive-through and as you know the tennis courts are deplorable. We have silver palmetto there which is very expensive to replace. They have some trellis or some other type of plant that is probably 15 years old that is dead in between the silver palmetto, and we want to take some of that area out. We want to put arborcola in there. I guess that is what this is for?

He said that will do good because of the low light area and it doesn't require a lot of moisture.
Mr. Carney: Is he putting the green?
Mr. Morgan: He has green right here. It grows pretty fast. It is pretty hearty. It is what we put in where the white fencing is from 43rd Court south to the wall. Some of that is arboricola. Art thought the arboricola would do a little bit better there because it is kind of low light.
Mr. Kapish: I want to say something about that. The Principal over there at the school, Shawn Cerra the Commissioner, and me are going to be talking about the school and making it a community school. I talked about this at a past meeting. We are talking about improvements to the school. This would be one of those improvements to the school. There is also talk about making those tennis courts pickleball courts. They are going to be talking about that. I really think before we move on that we should wait until there is a discussion between us and the Principal.
Mr. Morgan: Nothing has to be done anytime soon. It is just recognized as a deficiency during our drive-through. We can put that on hold.
Mr. Kapish: There is nothing wrong with the idea, but I am saying I think we should include her because she is looking for community involvement which is fine that is what we are doing. I think that we should get some credit for it, and I think we also should include her as a courtesy because actually the property over there is actually not COD property, it is going to be School Board property which I think we may need to get some permission.
Mr. Carney: What is her name?
Mr. Kapish: I don't have her name offhand, but she is the Principal over there. Mr. Morgan: Take that with you and tell them we are willing to do that if they prefer.
We did it before.
Mr. Carney: You are just filling in the gaps right? Mr. Morgan: Yes.
Mr. Kapish: This is a different type of person. She wants to make that a community school and try to fix it up to a point where a lot of the local residents don't want to go there, the reason why is because of the way it is. That is what she is trying to do. The School

Board is trying to do that with a lot of the schools that are inside of communities where the building is touching homes and next to homes. That is why we are trying to put that wall separating the homes and the school. That is another issue that we are going to be talking about.
Mr. Carney: She was also the same gal that sent out those emails to the parents about Turtle Run Park where it is not a safe place to be. She sent out that email.
Mr. Morgan: The Principal did?
Mr. Carney: Yes, the Principal of Forest Glen. Keep your kids out of the park at certain times of the day.
Mr. Morgan: We will just delay on that, and you can tell us when we can do that.
We are in no hurry to do that.
Mr. Szozda: This is where Mike's list comes in handy. The sanding of the pavers on Turtle Run Boulevard heading towards Sample Road, I am meeting with a couple of vendors tomorrow and Wednesday getting proposals for that work. I will get recommendations. It is usually a one or two-year window when you do this. Jonathan looked them over a little bit. There are some gaping holes where the pavers have separated so we will get an expert opinion on how we should address that issue.
Mr. Morgan: At the main entrance? Mr. Szozda: Yes.
Mr. Carney: It keeps them from moving right?
Mr. Szozda: Yes. We can minimize any further damage out there. Mr. Kapish: Did you look at them for mold and to clean them?
Mr. Szozda: That will be part of the direction. We wouldn't address that till after the pressure cleaning. The tree work we need to clarify also. They came out with an initial proposal of over $40,000. I personally, Patrick and Julio discussed it. A 30% increase we didn't think was a viable option. We got back to them. They reduced it to basically just over 10% I believe. Skip actually contacted Daniel Perry.
Mr. Carney: He was at the meeting with BrightView. I asked him a question. I said you had three guys at the meeting, talking about a 16% increase in the maintenance why didn't the tree trimming even come up? Here we are finding out that you raised it 30% up to $40,000. I said where did the number come from? He said well, I don't know, I will have

to get back to you. He said I will meet with my team. He gets back to me and in the meantime, Pat calls me and says they just lowered it to $34,000. So it went from $40,000 to $34,000 within a couple of hours. I talked to Daniel Perry, and I said you know, how do you just pull a $40,000 figure out of the air? He said well, we have some sort of a formula. I said ok let me know what the formula is. He came back and said well I am going to have Randy contact you. Randy calls me and said we are going to do it for last year's price of
$31,000. I said ok that is fine. We are paying the same price as last year at $31,000 because I think they got a little embarrassed because someone pulled a $40,000 number right out of the sky with no backup. He started talking about counting trees. I said if you are going to start counting trees, do that next year leading into 2023. You don't start counting trees now. It is already after the fact. The price is $31,000.
Mr. Morgan: Last year I thought we paid $30,500.
Mr. Kapish: Last year they didn't do a tree trim, what they did was a tree pruning to correct the structural pruning which they took a tree and structurally pruned it inside to make it hurricane-proof. The plan was to do it in three years because we didn't have the money to do it all in one year. The only trees that they cut were from Sample Road on Turtle Run Boulevard to Creekside and that was it. They were supposed to do the sables and stuff like that. Now we have trees that haven't been trimmed in two years and they are hanging in front of the sidewalks. If you go over by Walmart those trees are horrible. You are walking on the sidewalk, and you have the tree limbs bouncing in your face.
Mr. Carney: Pat, do you want to speak to Walmart?
Mr. Szozda: Yes they actually raised those trees up recently. It has probably been within the last two or three weeks. We actually drove through there. They have a new landscape company, and the place has vastly improved.
Mr. Kapish: I am talking about the COD trees, not the Walmart trees.
Mr. Szozda: The ones on the sidewalk in the front are CDDs. They raised those
up.
Mr. Kapish: Who raised them up? Mr. Szozda: Walmart did.
Mr. Kapish: Why would they be cutting our trees?
Mr. Szozda: I assume they thought they were their trees.

Mr. Kapish: We should be cutting our own trees. It is our responsibility.
Mr. Szozda: We got Jonathan out there and we found out where the easement ended, and those trees were part of what we should have been doing. They didn't do them last year.
Mr. Kapish: The trees all along Creekside back behind Target were never touched either. It looks horrible. It looks like it is unmaintained.
Mr. Carney: Walmart did it at no cost to us. They did a pretty good job by the way. Mr. Morgan: Skip, is what you are saying is you spoke with who from BrightView? Mr. Carney: Daniel Perry. He was at the meeting when BrightView was here.
Mr. Morgan: He agreed to do it for last year's prices? Mr. Carney: $31,000.
Mr. Morgan: Ok.
Mr. Carney: I asked him where the $40,000 came from. Number 1, I said if you have some sort of formula nothing is $40,000 flat. That sounds like an arbitrary number that was pulled out of a hat. At the end of the day, he kind of agreed with me. He said those numbers aren't right.
Mr. Morgan: Just to let you know because Pat, Patrick, and myself have been doing several drive-by a week now for the last five or six weeks and we haven't been communicating as well as we should be, but they were going to do a lot of extra work for us this year. You were at a disadvantage because you didn't know that because I didn't communicate that to you. There are areas on Turtle Run Boulevard from the cut-through south to 41 St. where monstrous flora holly, flora pepper, pomegranate trees, and banyan trees are growing over. Art was including, we had just been out here last week and stopped and looked at all those trees. We looked at some other trees that were growing over the walls and stuff like that. I don't know why he came up with $40,000 but the scope of work has changed. I didn't know what Chris just said what Dennis had worked out as far as just pruning structurally pruning some trees and not touching other trees is that you said?
Mr. Kapish: What they did is they structurally pruned the hardwoods from all of Turtle Run Boulevard to Creekside Drive. The only other trees they were cutting were sables. They touched none of the hardwood trees on any other roads anywhere even

along Sample Road. None of them were touched. I don't know what they are going to do for the same price this year because what they did last year was completely a different plan.
Mr. Morgan: If this is the direction the Board wants to take, we are back to where they cut and according to their proposal here if they cut every single, I spoke to Art last Friday and he was with a tree trimming crew guy and they were counting trees. I guess this is where they came up with the $40,000 proposal and now, they dropped it to the
$34,000 proposal with over 400 palms and over X amount of hardwoods. I guess they are going to trim everything. This afternoon I don't know what internal conversation is going on with BrightView however Art called me this afternoon probably around 2:00 or so and expressed concern that the scope of work they will do the best they can. I don't pay you to do the best you can, I pay for you to be perfect.
Mr. Carney: The job has to be done right.
Mr. Morgan: He explained to me that if they have to work under last year's budget because everything is time with him. If you look at it says ten days in this area, 11 days, or whatever it is then they move on. That is how he explained it to me. Obviously, things don't cost the same as they do last year this year. When I talked to Art I was at a disadvantage because I didn't know you had been talking to Daniel. The extra scope of work that Pat and I have identified and Patrick out there, I think they are probably going to spend four or five or six hours on one or two of these big giant trees. I am glad they reduced it from $40,000 to $34,000 but I would rather have the crews have enough time to do the job right than Chris, Mike, or me say that tree wasn't trimmed and try to bring crews back. There is an old British saying a penny wise and a pound foolish. Art expressed that they wouldn't be able to do the job that we want them to do for that amount of money with me today.
Mr. Carney: We want it done right. What was your take on it?
Mr. Szozda: I just expressed to them it was a 30% increase and it just wasn't acceptable. I wasn't bartering with them, I just said last year was $31,000 now you are going to $40,000. We put in maples but there are really no major additions. He came back right away and goes ok, let me talk to maybe he talked to Dan. I am not sure about that

but then he came back with the $34,000. Again, I wasn't here last year. I asked you what was budgeted. You told me $31,500.
Mr. Morgan: If you want to put it out to bid to some other companies that might take several weeks to do that.
Mr. Carney: That is next year.
Mr. Morgan: Art also said that tree trimming, and this is what he told me on the phone, I believe I said the tree trimmer was supposed to start last week and today is already Monday of this week, I don't know when he is going to get his crews out. Maybe tomorrow or Wednesday, but when you are scheduled for tree trimming, when is it supposed to start?
Mr. Szozda: It says September, it may even say the first of September. I have been in constant conversations with Art also. I said hey listen, we need to get this thing going. He understands the urgency involved here also. We just need to figure out what number we are going to utilize.
Mr. Morgan: His crew gets about $2,000 to $2,500 a day give or take. He said to do all the extra work, I said if you have to add a day or maybe two to get all the stuff that we want done, Hidden Lake, the wall, everything that is coming over, behind the houses on my side of the street. If you have to add a day or two I am ok with that. That was the conversation that Art and I had along with Pat and Patrick one day about a week ago.
Mr. Carney: We are asking him to do a lot more.
Mr. Hohl: To answer your question it is supposed to start the first week of September and be completed by the second week of October. We are a week behind.
Mr. Szozda: I think he said 11 days generally.
Mr. Morgan: Did Art indicate to you when he can start if the Board approves this? Mr. Szozda: I am pretty sure we can get going this week without question.
Mr. Hohl: Are they going to start at the entrances, so we are ready for lights and

stuff?

Mr. Szozda: We have already made that a priority.
Mr. Morgan: Pat the day that they are going to cut the blue tree I want to be there

for that.
Mr. Szozda: It will probably be at the top of the list actually.

Mr. Morgan: Would say that we go ahead and go with the $34,771. You operated on things that you didn't know that I had done.
Mr. Carney: I just know Pat called me on it and said 30% was crazy.
Mr. Morgan: I agree with that. 10% on a $30,000 project would be $3,000. We are right in that range.
Mr. Carney: That adds to the extra work you are asking them to do.
Mr. Morgan: Right. We will hold their feet to fire Pat and I to make sure the trees are done well.
Mr. Hohl: On that note Patrick can you send that revised schedule out to all the Board members so that they will have it?
Mr. Szozda: Yes. Just a real quick question how do we proceed with this? Do we just tell Art it has been approved? They are under contract, correct?
Mr. Carney: Yes just tell them to start the work.

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Mr. Hohl with all in favor, a proposal in the amount of $34,771 from BrightView for the 2022 tree trimming was approved.

Mr. Carney: Pat thank you.
D.	Manager
Mr. Carney: Rich, do you have anything?
Mr. Hans: No Julio didn't leave anything to bring up. I don't have anything.

TENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Financial Reports
A.	Financial Report on Capital Projects, Emergency Funds, Capital Reserve and All Other Financial Issues
Mr. Carney: As far as any financial information everything is pretty much the same.
Nothing else has been paid out of the capital.
Mr. Kapish: Last meeting we spent an hour and fifteen minutes talking about the internal ways the accountant does her paperwork. I think she clarified at the end that the taxes we have had many years since 2015, we have had no tax increase. The question I had to Jennifer was what was the rate of inflation for all those years that we were talking about and also to going back to the beginning of the District every year back then, 97, 98,

and the 90's there were increases or no increases or taxes stayed the same. I wonder if that list was ever compiled and if is it available here.
Mr. Hans: I didn't see it. You just want the CPI over the last 20 years?
Mr. Kapish: The CPI for 20 years because a lot of people when they throw out numbers, people kind of deceive people because numbers are deceiving. You can say something about a number, and you can make it whatever you want to make it like the old saying says figures lie and liars figure. The bottom line is that during a period in reality we do have a 10 or 12 % inflation rate. We don't know what it is going to be. When we talk about increases and stuff like that, that is exactly why we have some of these.
Mr. Hans: I can get it. There are tables out there online.
Mr. Kapish: I would also be interested in the tax increase/decreases since the beginning of the District not just from 2001 till now, but from 2001 back to the beginning of the District. I am sure there are records of that.
Mr. Hans: If we have it and we can get, we started in 2005, 2006. The reason she picked what was in our files in our system. She didn't dig through hard copies of budget stuff to pull numbers. Is it worth the time to do that before 2000? 21/22 years of history is that enough for you or we can dig in deeper.
Mr. Kapish: It is a large thing, but I understand.

ELEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS   Supervisors Requests
Mr. Carney: Supervisors requests. Chris, what do you have? Mr. Kapish: I really don't have anything.
Mr. Carney: Lance?
Mr. Morgan: I have a couple of things. About three weeks ago when I spoke to the sign lady, her name was Susan Bogen. I asked her if she was any relation to the commissioner, she assured me she wasn't. She and I had a long talk regarding some stuff and during my conversation, I asked her when this process started, and she said it started in August of last year. I asked her how did the process start? She said well Mike and Skip came to her location, they were both Board members on the COD and they came to her location and inquired about a sign. They basically said what they wanted and what they were looking for. They designed the sign, and they had several subsequent

meetings with her, and they designed a sign. They had some good ideas and came up with a workable sign that this Board could be interested in. The two Board members did that. Then in November, she did a presentation at the COD meeting in Coconut Creek at one of the hotels. At that point in time, we voted on the signs that she had prepared, and we voted to move forward with that. This is what she told me on the phone and as I inquired further she became a little apprehensive and said to me where is this questioning going? I told her that I was looking into this. She didn't want to answer any more questions on how the signs were originally started. Two weeks ago I had Pat ask her to a meeting or Julio and she declined to show up at the meeting. This is what Julio told me, he said that Skip intervened and said that she didn't have to show up at the meeting. I have no problem with that. She didn't show up, maybe she had a reason but that is what I was told. I asked her to show up to today's meeting and she is on vacation you said right, Pat?
Mr. Szozda: Yes she is.
Mr. Morgan: I understand that. My question is to Skip, did you and Mike show up in August, September, and October of last year at Signarama in the City of Deerfield Beach, two Board members to discuss a project that then came in front of this Board in November, and we voted on it?
Mr. Carney: I am not prepared to answer that question.
Mr. Morgan: It is real easy. This is my time. You recognized me. You can talk when your time comes. It is really an easy yes or no answer. Either you did do it, no big deal or you didn't do it, no big deal. If you did do it, I would imagine that the reason you don't want to answer the question is that you are afraid it is a violation of the Sunshine law. Two or three weeks ago we had a Sunshine law and it says any two Board members get together to discuss an issue that is coming in front of this Board in the foreseeable future for a vote and she told me that and I am reporting what she said that you and Mike had several meetings with her at her business in Deerfield Beach at Signarama wherever it is located in Deerfield Beach. That is number one. You are not prepared to answer that question Mr. Chairman?
Mr. Carney: No.
Mr. Morgan: That is what she alleged to me. That is what I understand happened. Ok. In September of last year Skip, you showed up at my house and came up to my back

porch and you asked for me to support you in removing at the time Chris Kapish who was the Chairman of this Board. You told me that you wanted it to be a unanimous vote. Do you remember that?
Mr. Carney: Is this the forum to discuss this counsel? Mr. Morgan: This is my time; I can do what I want to.
Mr. Cochran: I saw that there was some discussion of this in the last meeting.
Mr. Morgan: This is my time; you don't have to answer the question. I am just making assumptions as I understand facts. I was there and you were there, and you know it. My question is did you have the same question with Zaida? And did you have the same conversation with Mike because you alleged to me that you wanted to be a unanimous vote to remove Mr. Kapish off the Board which then at a subsequent meeting Mike made the motion and if you guys didn't talk about it and didn't collude and didn't talk about removing him, he just made a motion out of the clear blue sky to remove Mr. Kapish out of which you, Zaida and Mike voted on that. It would have been a Sunshine law violation to come to my house and ask for support for something that is coming up in front of the Board in the near future. You understand that and that is what you did. You are looking at me man to man, you know that is what you did. Thirdly, back on June 27, we had a discussion about the flagpoles and the flagpoles were issued that the Chairman didn't want to spend money on because he thought it was a waste of money and didn't care for the guy named Dustin Hoffman over there who is the HOA President at the time. You realize text messages to another Board member about something that is going to come up for a vote is also a violation of the Sunshine law. I want to read this for the record the text I received from Skip Carney. "Those flagpoles and I quote, those flagpoles can cost anywhere from $30,000 to $50,000, maybe it is best that we let it go. Trying to influence another Board member as to how I should vote for the flagpoles. I knew Dustin Hoffman did not have the right personality for that kind of job. It takes a different type of personality to be a condo manager, been there done that unquote." Subsequent to that a few weeks later we had a vote for the flagpoles. Did you have a conversation with Mike and Zaida? You don't have to answer that because we all taped now. Just remember anything you say on tape, and if you want to change your story later we will repeat your statement later because this is an official government meeting here. These are the facts; you know it and

I know it. These are the facts. I just wanted to bring that to light and there is going to be more about it later on. Thank you very much. That is all I have for tonight except for one other thing. Where are we at as far as getting the City to pay the electric bill for the new streetlights? They used to pay the old electric bill for the old streetlights, the culvert lights on Turtle Run Boulevard. Has anybody heard anything?
Mr. Kapish: That is a meeting that has to take place between me and the Public Works Director.
Mr. Carney: Chris said he would follow up on that. Mr. Morgan: Ok that is all I have. Thank you.
Mr. Carney: Mike?
Mr. Hohl: I just have a question. Chris, where are we at with the main entrance and trying to get the contractors to fix the deficiencies? Have we heard anything back on that?
Mr. Kapish: Yes, I talked to Matthew, he is the lawyer, and they still have a few days or a week.
Mr. Hohl: That was a 60-day timeframe?
Mr. Kapish: He said less than a week. They had 60 days from the time of the notice till now. The 60 days are running out very shortly. They have heard nothing from either one of them. You can draw a lot of assertions from that, but they can come at the last second of time and come out with some kind of plan to fix it. The problem with that is when you do that you usually drag things out. First of all, you waited the entire 60 days, it doesn't take 60 days to say this is broken and I am going to fix it. The other thing is they come up with some kind of plan just not the plan of what needs to be done. Then you have to have a discussion about that. So that is where it is at. Then you go from there. If they don't respond at all then the Board has the right to go ahead from the expert that the lawyer had and he can probably get five contractors or so and you can get bids from the five contractors, repair it and then sue them for the repairs. If that answers the question.
Mr. Hohl: Thank you. That is all.
Mr. Carney: Hopefully we will hear from them soon. Ok, motion to adjourn.

TWELFTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Adjournment

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Mr. Hohl with all in favor, the meeting was adjourned.

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